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PAGG if you eat once a day?

I do intermittent fasting, so taking PAGG isn't quite clear. It seems like its benefits are obtained by taking it before meals, at least for some of the supplements. If I only eat once or twice a day, when should it be taken and in what quantities?

For example, it seems like EGCG needs to be taken as 900-1100 mg total, so I would either need to take it without food or increase the dosage before I eat.

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Sorry I really don't have an answer but I have a question for you! does intermitten fasting work for you? I would like to try it but I don't know exactly what I'm suppose to do! I too take PAGG, I'm on my week off right now.

Sorry I'm of no help!

  • Camden Chelios commented Apr 18th 2012:

    I don't follow it strictly, so I don't want to use myself as an example. However, the results of Martin Berkhan (leangains.com) and his raving fans on forums to say YES. I can say that eating 1-2 times a day greatly increases my productivity by giving me more time. Also, if you count calories or anything like that it's much easier to do when you have fewer meals. I definitely haven't gained any fat or lost any strength by eating by eating fewer meals or training in a pseudo-fasted (BCAA before workout) state. Also, I'm pretty lean as it is, so I'd have to follow it more strictly to lose weight at this stage.

  • MaryC commented Apr 18th 2012:

    Thank you for your comment! I have read post on intermittent fasting, and to me it has always been imprinted in my head to eat, eat, eat, so it still very hard to believe this is good for you, but I'm willing to give it a try.

    what i understand intermitten fasting is for example Eat my dinner at around 6pm, fast for 16 hours, so breakfast will be at 10 am, but that will contradict with the Slow Carb Diet (4HB) to eat breakfast within an hour of waking!

    I'm really confused! lol.

    thanks again. I'm curious to read what others have to say about PAGG and Intermitten fasting.

  • joeburchett2 commented Apr 18th 2012:

    I have tried it (1 - 2 meals/day) and while it is true that counting calories can be easier this way, portion control can be HARDER. I find that it is actually much easier to eat 6-8 times per day, approximately 200 - 300 calories each. This means a small meal every 2 - 3 hours. I pack a lunch box with 1600 calories in it and all food per day must come from the box! The reasons are twofold: 1) Every time you eat your metabolism ramps up to process the food. If you eat every 2 -3 hours, your metabolism stays at a higher level consistently. 2) I find that if I wait too long to eat and I am VERY hungry, I eat much more than I should have. You have to find what actually works for you and your body chemistry...and lifestyle! Hope this helps!

    Joe

  • Camden Chelios commented Apr 18th 2012:

    Mary: I was brainwashed with the every 2-3 hours as well. I was actually introduced to this by a friend who I ridiculed for suggesting fasting was healthy or could reduce body fat. The particular protocol she was looking into was called "Eat Stop Eat" in which you skip an entire day of eating. I found out about the "Warrior Diet" which lead me to "Lean Gains." After seeing how Berkhan scientifically demolished all of the exercise and eating myths I had to give it a shot. The fact that he is the most ripped person I have ever seen doesn't hurt either. Yes, it is about 16 hours between your last meal and when you train, followed by your first and largest meal. Some do 1 meal, but 2 and 3 are also common...

  • Camden Chelios commented Apr 18th 2012:

    Mary: This does contradict SCD, but you have to realize Ferriss didn't write the 4-Hour Body. Much of the book, if not the entire book, was outsourced. If you pay attention (I think it's in the SCD chapter) he mentions writing "The Passionate Programmer." That book was written by Chad Fowler, who it turns out wrote that particular chapter. With this knowledge you can understand how certain chapters may contradict each other or how certain information isn't necessarily gospel. Over all, I still feel the 4-Hour Body is a great book. I would highly recommend checking out Lean Gains though.

  • Camden Chelios commented Apr 18th 2012:

    Joe: How long did you try 1-2 meals? Were you skipping breakfast? The first couple weeks were challenging, but you get used to it. I have found that if you eat breakfast you are hungry for the entire day. Making it to at least lunch is very easy if you skip breakfast. I actually have more energy and think clearer without breakfast. If you have ever tried fasting or were forced to (military) you will know that your stomach shrinks. It's nearly impossible to eat the same amount of food. You get used to being hungry the same way people get used to exercise strain. After getting used to training you don't notice the burn. Hunger is the same thing. Ramping up your metabolism is a complete myth. http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.htm...

  • MaryC commented Apr 19th 2012:

    Jmsmith11, I will look into the Lean Gains! thank you so much for all the useful information.

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Jmsmith,

Did you ever find a good schedule to take PAGG while intermittent fasting? I'd like to start taking PAGG but not sure how to implement it when eating once or twice a day.

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Sorry, I didn't get you guys but I re-ask again the main question, Can you eat once a day PAGG?

I haven't been taking it but I would like to start it but I just want that PAGG gives me little push to lose weight not being taking it so much and for long time, If it will be once a day, I guess that the best time probably is lunch time or dinner time?

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