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3 weeks in and no results

I started the SCD on 3/5/12, so I am in the middle of my third week. And although I have never felt as good as I feel now I have yet to see results.

I'm not sure what it is that is stalling my loss. I don't want to get discouraged but when you see forum members talk about I loss this much weight and/or this many inches its hard to not lose that focus and get discouraged. I am a 32 year old female, my current weight is 154. I have not had any weight loss and have only lost about 1/2 and inch from my waist and that's about it.

Here is my current workout and diet schedule:

I do boot camp three days a week, and on these days I wake up at 5:30AM and just have a tall glass of ice water within minutes of waking. Do my one hour class and drink a Myoplex Chocolate 30g protein shake at about 7:15AM. The days I do not have boot camp I wake up at 6:30 and drink a protein shake within 30 minutes of waking.

The rest of the day for every day of the week looks something like this:

10:30AM - 3 eggs, spinach, one small turkey sausage and 2 slices of turkey bacon with a couple slices of avocado and black or pinto beans

I was having a cup of coffee with 2 tsp. of non-dairy creamer, but I have cut that out this week.

2:30PM - I have chicken breast, with a spring mix and baby spinach salad, 3 mini peppers, broccoli, and avocado slices and black or pinto beans

4:45PM - I have 2-3 brazil nuts OR a small handful of dried salted edamame OR a small handful of salted almonds

7:30PM - This will vary between, ground turkey cooked with green beans over baby spinach and spring mix salad OR ground turkey chili (from the slow carb cookbook) OR chicken smoked sausage with mini peppers over baby spinach and spring mix salad.

I will usually drink between 50-60oz of water, 2 cups of green tea and one to two cups of coffee (I have stopped with the coffee this week).

I had a really hard time with food digesting not settling well in my stomach, horrible bloating and nausea at the start of week 2 and I followed the advice of some of you on here and tried taking the Psyllium Husk, so I have started taking that once a day to help stay regular and that has really helped.

I don't know if I am eating too much or not enough. Any and all suggestions are appreciated, thank you to you all in advance. I am on here daily just gaining new and amazing tips!

  • rockthedress commented Apr 11th 2012:

    Last week I was on "spring break" from boot camp but I worked out on my own 3 days out of the week. I have made slight changes since my last post, mainly I just dropped the Myoplex shake. I managed to drop about a 1.5lbs. (maybe even more) And weigh was actually the day after my cheat day so I'm sure I actually dropped more than that, I didn't actually weigh myself at all last week. Instead of my shake first thing in the morning I am now eating 3 hard boiled eggs. And the rest of my day has pretty much remained the same as in my post. I am actually eating legumes only about once a day, dropped the avocado and the sweet peppers. And have been drinking MUCH more water. I will weigh in tomorrow and update my weight. Thanks everyone for your input!

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Maybe you should cut out the foods that are "once a day" foods like avacado and almonds. You should also drink you weight in ounces (ex. If you weight 150lbs you should drink 150oz. Of water). Also, DONT GET DISCOURAGED:) I thought I was gaining weight (I started the same time as you) and I was actually just bloated from the switch to high protein foods. Just stay with it. Your body will adjust!:) Good Luck!

  • rockthedress commented Mar 28th 2012:

    Thanks so much!! What is the reason for drop the one a day foods?

  • rockthedress commented Mar 28th 2012:

    Also how soon after you started on the scd did bloating start and How long did it last?

  • Graham commented Mar 29th 2012:

    Just to trade things out and experiment, you might stumble across a quick solution or find that you were having too many almonds etc. There isn't much point in doing the same thing expecting a different result so eliminating a few things at a time is a great way to get unstuck, even if you bring them back after a few days.

    The bloating is usually a sign of water retention which is a result of a stalled metabolism, it's holding onto things it would need to survive on a desert island, food and water. Once you get back to clear sailing that will drop right off.

  • rockthedress commented Mar 29th 2012:

    I will try and up my water intake to see if I notice any changes just so frustrating not knowing what the cause is and where I need to make changes.

  • Luchi commented Mar 30th 2012:

    I started the SCD three weeks ago. I have lost 3 kg (sorry, I'm European... about 7 lbs) and 2,5 cm (1 inch). I'm feeling discourage also because I run everyday for 5 km (3 miles)... I'll hold on!

    We will motivate each other! :-)

  • rockthedress commented Apr 11th 2012:

    Luchi! I'm on board, I made some changes since I last posted this and it seems to have made a slight difference! I'm glad I held on and continue to work at it daily!

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3 days a week you're waiting almost 2 hours to have breakfast, and then it's a shake.

There is controversy over shakes. They're an improvement over jam and toast, but can cause people to stall.

When I started making sure I had 30 g+ of egg/meat/bean protein within 30 min of waking up I unstalled off a plateau.

I'm about to face a similar issue when the weather gets nice enough to cycle to work - I'd be looking at waiting 90 minutes before breakfast, which is too long. I don't think I can cycle with my usual egg/meat 30g+ protein breakfast in my stomach so I'm looking into other options like a hemp powder shake before leaving. I may have to choose slower fat loss while cycling, but accept that I prioritize saving gas, etc etc during those months.

I'm curious to see what the experienced SCD people recommend to you. There's a solution out there!

  • rockthedress commented Mar 29th 2012:

    The reason for the 2 hours before breakfast, is because I just can't eat a full meal and then work out hard soon after, I can't workout on a full stomach. I just have no clue what is causing my stall?

  • Graham commented Mar 29th 2012:

    What does the boot camp involve, I imagine it's a lot of interval stuff? Sit ups etc

    I would get the protein in before the boot camp, even if it's in the form of a protein drink. The protein is there to hit our metabolism as it wakes and it's useful later in the day but the 30 w/i 30 has a very strict guideline and is very intentional. Ref: http://4hourpeople.com/question/1110/TIP-Avoid-whey-protein-when-bu...

  • rockthedress commented Mar 29th 2012:

    Its just so hard to eat/drink a lot and then workout pretty much right after. 2 of the 3 days its all strength workouts and 1 of the 3 days its cardio. Its just tough working out on a full stomach.

  • Jake commented Mar 29th 2012:

    It might be time to drop the cardio for a week or two as an experiment. A lot of research points to excessive cardio slowing metabolism and preventing fat loss, and it sounds like you have the additional problem of it preventing you from being able to follow the diet.

  • Icandoit commented Mar 30th 2012:

    Take a look at Laura Cox's posts like this one: http://4hourpeople.com/question/397/weight-training-before-and-afte... She shares her workouts and meal plans.

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How many beans are you eating in a day? (in cups, not individual beans!)

What ingredients are in the sausage? What about the bacon?

You mentioned salads, are you using dressing? What kind?

Since you aren't sure if you might be eating too much or too little, log in your calories for a typical day into myfitnesspal.com and report back. (Then we can tell you you're not eating enough and working out too much, and slowing down your metabolism)

What's in the myoplex shake? Is it sweetened? Does it have milk?

5:30 is early to get up - how much sleep are you getting?

Also - since you are stalled, I would try replacing the shakes with real food.

  • Graham commented Mar 29th 2012:

    Myoplex are what Tim used to start off when he was coaching his dad, I think their not too bad at all but there is a bunch of preservatives and stuff so Tim's Dad used them for a month to get the habit and results first then transitioned to whole foods.

  • rockthedress commented Mar 29th 2012:

    I have about a cup of beans a day. For dressing, I use oil and balsamic vinegar. I sleep no less than 8 hours a night

  • Jake commented Mar 29th 2012:

    That all sounds like the right answers! Some people drop the balsamic because it does typically have sugars in it. Personally, I've used it all along, but I also am not concerned about the speed of my loss and if I stay at this weight I'll be happy now.

    I see below people are suggesting dropping the myoplex, and I strongly agree with that. Yes Tim's father used it, but it's not the recommended SCD diet so it should be one of the first things to change if you are stalled.

  • Graham commented Mar 30th 2012:

    I would totally drop them to, it was only to first get the results and the habit started with the intention of transitioning to whole foods. Don't forget that the food we eat usually takes a long time to work their way into our system, hopefully around the same pace that our body needs the energy, a shake is the opposite of that, it's intended to give everything in as quick a punch as possible.

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I am even newer at this tahn you. I was having a hard time losing weight as well. I jsut started my third week this Monday. I cut my beans down water up and made sure that I drank my shake within the first 30 minutes of wakign up adn for the last two days in a row I have lost 1/2 a pound a day!! I can't believe how a little adjustment can make such a big change! Good luck to you! :)

  • rockthedress commented Apr 11th 2012:

    Yes the water has really made such an impact on my recent loss I think it was my missing ingredient.

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Hi, Rock!

How tall are you, Rock? Just wondering. How much do you want to lose?

Ok, first off, having that 30g of protein an hour AFTER you wake up is red flag #1. You have to have your 30g of protein WITHIN an hour of waking. This is actually the only really "annoying" part of the plan, but it IS important you have your 30g of protein in whatever form you take it, BEFORE that hour is up after you wake up(not rise from bed). Within 30 minutes is preferred, but 60 minutes is acceptable too(and what I do usually). I DO see you do get in the 30g of protein on non-boot camp days, but it is still a non-SCD compliant shake, so...

Ok, onto your shakes....MOST protein shakes, UNFORTUNATELY, will NOT be SCD-compliant. They will contain dairy and more than likely sucralose or some other artificial sweeteners. Artificial Sweeteners (even the 'approved' pure stevia and even diet pop(1 can a day)) WILL stall/slow your progress if you drink it regularly. If you are drinking it everyday after your boot camp...then that may be why.

My suggestion, cut out the Myoplex. I understand Tim mentions his dad using it, but it's still NOT SCD compliant. The ONLY protein shake that is SCD compliant comes from Vitamin Shoppe - Isopure Natural Unsweetened Whey Protein Isolate. I hear it tastes like nothing(crap?), but people have been known to "flavor it up" with cinnamon, 1 tbl of no-sugar peanut butter, coffee, and unsweetened cocoa powder. Some have even put in spinach....*yuck*

Tim mentions that the BEST protein to get is the "chewable kind". So, I understand boot camp may make this impossible as you don't wanna puke it up during the boot camp, but I guess you have to do what you can. Change the protein shake at the very least so the artificial sweeteners in it won't stall you.

How many beans are you getting? You should try to get no more than 3/4 cup to 1 cup a day and preferably spread out between breakfast/lunch.

Do you really need the mid-afternoon nut snack? If you are eating enough, you shouldn't be hungry for nuts. Nuts, while approved, if eaten enough and regularly are a "domino food". So, if you know you can control yourself to like 5-6 almonds a day, then do so. But, if you are hungry, you should really increase your protein in your other meals to avoid craving/snacking between meals.

What is in the sausage? Most sausages will have added sugar and possibly starches, so, be careful.

As far as water intake. You should probably get at least 96-101oz of water per day (3 Liters) I guess you can count that in your green tea and/or coffee as well, but since tea/coffee has caffeine in it and takes water out, you probably want to keep it to 3 Liters of "just water" a day. More water intake is good, just don't overdo it.

Anywho...those are my suggestions...hopefully if you change some of them it will work for you and you will see results.

Good Luck!

  • Member commented Mar 29th 2012:

    At this point I am inclined to go with ANYTHING that Akane says and treat it as SCD gospel. Don't believe me? Just look at her results post and I dare you to disagree with her. The (skinny) lady knows what she's talking about!!!

  • Maria Rider commented Mar 29th 2012:

    *blush* thanks, TheGru! :) *HUG* But remember, what may work for me may not work for everyone. :) But, it doesn't hurt to try. :)

  • rockthedress commented Apr 11th 2012:

    Akane: YOu always know your way with words, and your input really did help lots thanks!

  • Maria Rider commented Apr 12th 2012:

    You're welcome, Rock! Keep it up!

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